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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:46:00 -
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There are many players who simply do not like the stress associated with PvP combat. We never have, and we never will. Telling such players "Well, you can play, but you are going to be pinatas for all the PvPers" is most likely driving away subscriptions. Some players will do whatever is needed to avoid PvP or a war dec, including not play eve. Give such players a better choice.
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Posted - 2012.01.27 22:05:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:There are many players who simply do not like the stress associated with PvP combat. We never have, and we never will. Telling such players "Well, you can play, but you are going to be pinatas for all the PvPers" is most likely driving away subscriptions. Some players will do whatever is needed to avoid PvP or a war dec, including not play eve. Give such players a better choice.
Can you describe a mechanic by which this could be provided? With respect, your message is a bit vague.
There are many possibilities. One is to allow players to declare their corp "protected", meaning it cannot be war decced. Such a corp could also not war dec, or be in an alliance, or have a POS, and would be subject to a CONCORD sur-tax.
Another would be to have suicide gankers pay the insurance payout of any ship they destroy.
But then the number of players who benefit from suicide ganking is tiny compared to those who are victimized by it. So is it really a net benefit to the game? Maybe without the right to shoot, you simply cannot shoot another player in high sec.
Now: Why would a Goon care about such ideas?
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Posted - 2012.01.27 22:47:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:...
I would be cautious about suggesting such a feature if I were you, since it seems to me as though it opens an entirely new avenue of grief and non-consensual PVP. If such a mechanic were to be implemented, then a malignant party could form a corporation and pay whatever fee to CONCORD, and then be immune to player-driven reprisal for anything they do; for example, you would not be able to hire mercenaries to go after that guy who just suicide ganked you if he was in a "protected" corporation. On the other hand, at least you would have a fair sampling of which players have stairs in their homes, so there is that.
In essence they can do that now, just stay in NPC corps and have a private chat channel. Another way to see this proposal is its a step between such a "meta corp" (everyone in an NPC corp and a private chat channel) and a real eve corp. You get the corp structure, offices, can shoot each other, corp standings, but nothing else.
Or: In order for a corp to keep its protected status the average corp security status must be zero or above.
If high sec was made very safe, it may become even more of a supply house for null than it already is. I don't think that the best way to make a living in null sec should be go to high sec. Other balancing changes may be needed. For example:
Adjust the mineral makeup and size of all modules so they never reprocess into a larger volume of minerals then the module volume.
Move ore types like Concentrated and Dense Veld out of high (well, maybe a few prize nuggets here and there) and boost their richness to +50% and +100%. In low you get mostly +50% types and in null, +100% types. The ABC ores and maybe even the HJ ores may have to be adjusted down a bit to prevent a (more) horrid oversupply issue.
With these 2 changes it will be easier for Null to supply itself.
TL;DR: don't change high without considering the rest of the game.
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Posted - 2012.01.27 23:12:00 -
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Another interesting question: If you really are interested in helping High sec players better enjoy the game, why are you still being tolerated by the other Goons? Why have they not booted you from the entire out of game community for such a position?
Unless, of course, they know you do not really mean it.
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Posted - 2012.01.27 23:53:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Since you obviously have no clue about the issues and concerns of high security citizens, you ask for others to give that info along with ideas for high sec reform. I'm sorry but you're not the type of candidate I would want to represent my viewpoints. I could check all your past forum posting to get a good idea about your characters playstyle but quite frankly, just like others have said, I still wouldn't trust you even if all your posted replies were pro carebear.
Bottom line: I believe you're just a wolf in sheep clothing with a hidden agenda - to make sure the null sec alliance power blocks keep control of the CSM.
As there is a chance this is true, Id rather put my vote elsewhere.
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Posted - 2012.01.28 00:24:00 -
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Umega wrote:......
13 - No perfect immunity for anyone, anywhere, ever other than sitting in a station. Other cuddle, safe, non-harsh MMOs are over there.. not here, never.
Before the **** storm by the immunity huggers.. don't open your mouths. Stop talking.
Er, how about "No".
There is no "over there". If there was an eve-online that was consensual PvP combat only I'd be there in a flash. But that game does not exist. As I cannot make such a game, the best option for me is to get this one to be modified so its more enjoyable, and stay in that part of the game that has the least stress.
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Posted - 2012.01.28 00:27:00 -
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Umega wrote:
One could claim that a PvE highsec orientated CSM could be out there with a hidden agenda to nerf null/low, nerf all of PvP, or at the very least certain sigments of it. Who are they to attempt such a thing without strong knowledge of that area of EVE?
Which is why a CSM with members from all parts of the game would be best.
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